Saw your ‘What are they looking at?” guide. Are you trolling us?

Not even a little bit.

Okay, some clarification.  All I am doing here is looking through my type tags, and if someone has at least one eye that is definitely looking at the camera, trying to figure out what the other eye is looking at to determine where the person’s focus point is.  i.e. What are they looking at?

And with the introverts, I have come to the conclusion that if you put a camera in front of them, and tell them to look at the camera, both eyes will focus directly on the camera. 
(This is true of most cases, but there are still probably some outliers and/or people I’ve typed wrong.)  

If you look at one of their eyes and then the other, they will appear to be looking at your right or your left eye.  Do they do this while talking to people, also?  Or is it only when you give them a specific point to look at?  I can tell you that in my case, this holds up when I’m listening to people, but is harder when I’m talking to people.  I’ve noticed INTJs will sometimes do the ENTJ thing where they’re staring through you at the horizon line, though, so.

And then the extraverts…

They are all over the map, and while sometimes they do focus both eyes on the camera, they often are focused just about everywhere else, but in ways that clearly adhere to type (sometimes).  I have no idea why.  I just know that it happens. 

ESTPs and ENFPs are the most dramatic.  ESTPs appear to be focused more on the room than the camera, and often do not have a focal point.  Maybe this is their Se giving them increased spatial awareness??? (Seeing as how ESFPs also do this sometimes???  Doesn’t explain the occasional ESTJs, though.)

ENFPs have the closest focal point to their face, and there are a lot of them doing it in the ENFP tag.

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Close your left eye.  Look at the camera with your right.  Hold up a finger between your right eye and the camera (where the arrow is pointing).  Open your left eye and join the right in looking at the finger. 

If you’ve taught yourself how to look at magic eye photos, this will be a lot like that.

I think what’s happening is instead of getting lost in your head, ENFPs get lost half a foot and to the side of the front of your face.  I have noticed you guys looking here when you’re trying to explain something (usually facing down to your laps).

Here’s approximately where all the extraverts are looking, at least in the guide post I made (not true of every extravert, or in every photo).

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ENTPs: I can’t tell most of the time whether you’re doing the introvert both eyes on the camera thing, or if you’re looking just to the side.

ENFJs: I have noticed you guys doing this to me as in person, not just with a camera, particularly if you don’t know me.  I think if you have problems with people thinking you’re not paying attention, this is probably why.

ETJs and ESFs: I have also noticed you guys looking at me this way.

I think focal point is definitely not fixed for any type – this is just trends for how people tend to look at cameras (and probably also people, but I can’t necessarily confirm this) by type.It’s kind of funny that the most intense eye contact is ETJs and ESTPs (who are possibly looking through you more than at you), while introverts, who are probably looking very closely at you, have the least intense eye contact.

I think Ezra Miller is an ENFP mainly because of the topics he frequently talks about, what he thinks about them and the way in which he talks about them. I think you’re definitely right about ExFP, but I do think he’s intuitive (and more specifically, uses Ne)… I know this is incredibly vague but it’s hard to go into specific detail through an ask box haha

jademeetsworld said to mbti-sorted:

the main reason I think Ezra Miller is an ENFP is because he says a lot of “N things”, particularly Ne things, in interviews. for example, an interviewer asked him something along the lines of “so you’re known as being bizarre.” and then went on to confirm that he was born in New Jersey. and Ezra replied “New Jersey. super bizarre place. if you look at it aerially it’s like all squares and circles and there’s something weird about that.”

and then with Regina, i’ll be honest i’ve only seen one interview but she was pretty abstract and conceptualizing in it. i mostly get the N from her music which is pretty Ne to me because she writes a lot of songs as little fictional stories and has weird metaphors and talks a lot about topics from different perspectives. all of that strikes me as Ne somewhere on the functional stack instead of Ni and she is probably a P so I’d guess XNFP

jademeetsworld said to mbti-sorted:

Okay so Ezra Miller, Logan Lerman and Halsey. Also, I’m wondering why you don’t get an N vibe from Joseph Gordon-Levitt (he seems far more idea-based than sensory) and why you think John Lennon was a Ti user because he seemed a bit too dreamy and idealistic to be dom-Ti in my opinion.

Sorry to send you more than one ask but with Joseph Gordon-Levitt it might be helpful to check out his videos he makes for HitRECord because a lot of the time they seem pretty Ne (at least to me).

First of all, my apologies!!! These asks are so old I could probably throw them a birthday party.

Ezra, Regina, JGL (SFPs):

What I see when I look at them is tremendously stylish, talented, congenial, enthusiastic people who also have been raised with an appreciation for education and intelligence.  They seem vaguely EN because they are shadow-functioning.

Halsey’s already been covered in another ask or three, but same idea there.

John Lennon:

I think he has a reputation for dreamy idealism, but the reality is a guy who was super cutting with his words (NFs are better at sustained passive aggression).

I’ve been looking at Jerry Seinfeld and David Letterman more closely since there are billions of videos of them but still don’t get the difference in their body language, like P vs J. Maybe I have a general extrovert problem as pretty much all ET types look similar. How do you see the body language difference in say, Seinfeld and Letterman?

Posture-wise, ENTPs tend to stand slightly contrapposto.

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That dude’s milking it.  ENTPs are way more subtle. 

Here’s Seinfeld with his weight on one leg:

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Here’s Letterman with his weight on one leg:

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Seinfeld leaning on some walls:

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Letterman leaning on a post:

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Seinfeld:

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Letterman:

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Seinfeld:

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Letterman:

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Seinfeld:

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Capiche?

What are they looking at? Extravert edition.

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ESTPs: Mad peripheral skills.  They’re taking in the entire room.

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ESTJs: Staring through you and around you at the same time.

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ESFJs: One eyeball on each of your eyeballs.  Prime eye contact.

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ESFP: pretty good!  ESFPs are changeable though, and do a bit of the ESTP-checking-out-the-room thing, too.

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ENFPs: What is happening. 

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ENTP: Not too shabby.  (Is that right eye actually looking towards the left side of your face, though, instead of your right eye?  Hard to tell.)

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ENTJs: Laser beams through your face straight through to the horizon line.

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ENFJ: Looking through your skull to that spot on the back of your head.  Think good thoughts.

I’m trying to decide between ENTP and ENFP for myself, what do you see as some key differences when you are typing others besides the typical T v F stuff?

This is tricky for me, too, to be sure.  I don’t really have a lot of physical differences to impart to you – sometimes the Fs will smile more, but not necessarily.  I think I am mostly going by how they feel to me (and if they directly map onto another person I’ve already typed), which is no doubt unhelpful to you.

One thing that is a dead giveaway is that if you have Fi, you will likely have a problem with emotionally detaching from arguments or other heightened competitive-type situations – you might get defensive and/or upset when people don’t agree with you when you have a personal stake in the outcome.  Once you get defensive, it might be hard to back down without physically leaving the situation.

May I jump in on this. One thing I notice between SJ and NP and how they express Si are SJ’s are more noticeably tied to their routines, like how they are daily. They’re steady, reliable creatures of habit. NP can be these things also but theyre less reliable than SJ because their Ne is stronger in them. NP are likely to see leaps and changes as appealing and fun than an SJ will ordinarily. Si in NP types can be nostalgic but less related to their routines or things they deal with daily.

Ok, so here is the thing.  You are comparing profile NP to profile SJ.  I have found that in looking at specific people of one type, there is a huge range of people that belong to that type, some of whom use their third and fourth functions way more than first and third.  If you take an INFP using their Si and Te the most (maybe they’re responsible for a dependent and have become very organized and routine out of necessity) and compare them to an ISFJ who’s backpacking across the world and has no responsibilities, the lines between them are extremely blurred. 

What would be a better comparison is to see how both ISFJ and INFP handle having a dependent, because you are more likely to see type-related differences more clearly then.

In Dodie’s case, I don’t really think she is shadow-functioning.  Comparatively to me, she extraverts way more Fi, a little more Ne and probably a lot more Si, going by the other anon’s argument (I didn’t watch long enough to catch any of it, unfortunately). Generally, she is just more extraverted than me.