Category: not a typing post

RE Prince William appearing more enFj than enTj, I also had trouble w/ the differences between Fe and Te extraverts because they both “handle” people. Will is also monarchy and there’s a lot of Fe in that type of milieu, he wouldve naturally attuned himself to that way and it was also likely drilled into him. I’m isfp and w/ esfj dad and entp mum so for a long time I was confused about Fi-Fe and Ti-Te bc I test high for the functions my parents use while still testing high for my own preferences

Many of my friends that grew up WASPy also look Fe strong even if it’s
not in their top functions. Nurture plays a big role and it can take
much reflection and consideration to determine one’s true type if their
environment and parental influence was strong. This is especially true
for those who actually have Fe preference and an infj friend of mine
struggles between infj and intj even though he speaks like every infj on
this site.
       
    

Hm… I would disagree about the Royal family being an Fe heavy place.  Up until Camilla, Kate and Megan Markle if she sticks it out (a possible hat-trick of ESFJs?), I think all their F-type members were Fi (Edward, Fergie, one of the princess-cousins, maybe some of the great-grandkids).  It’s a very T-type family.  There’s a lot of inferior Fe, though, which I’m not sure is well developed, but they have a lot of etiquette/media training that kind of covers the same bases.

Shadow-functioning and nurture do seem to be very closely tied, though, and as a note, I don’t think there’s a another type that shadow-functions so convincingly in so many directions as ISFPs.  I am not surprised you were confused about your preferences, because I am constantly mistaking ISFPs for other types.

If Paris Hilton is an ISTJ, do you think Kim Kardashian might be one too? They both have the same aura of being very in control at all times.

I have had this thought from time to time, but felt exhausted at the thought of a Kardashian-Jenner recheck.  (If Kim is ISTJ, Kourtney is probably not, and so I’d have to go through them all.)

Lucky for me, infj-zen took another look, and what she came up with seems legit from what I remember of them. 

Can you explain the mind reading Amy Acker mind reading post?

Anonymous said:

just realized I said mind reading twice… please ignore

I can’t entirely explain, not having written the post and not being an INFJ myself, but I can offer my interpretation of what infj-zen was trying to get at.

Because you asked about humour, the gifs are representative of INFJ humour. The video is a good example of INFJ thought process and how they act in public/during presentations. The mind reading is a jab at the ‘psychic’ tag that comes with the INFJ profile.

But also: if the humour of the post is not extremely cryptic and Amy Acker’s thoughts and behaviours (facial expressions, laugh, posture, clothing, hair, etc.) seem familiar, you are probably on the right track.

Can you tell me more about how Barack Obama embodies the ENTP type. I agree with your typing, I just want to better understand his end of the ENTP spectrum.

infj-zen says:

  • He does not have high Te like Bill or Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden; they are all very able to speak fluidly, on the spot, and at length on a wide range of topics of which they have little background knowledge. With Ti, it helps to have a lot of background knowledge. Note his reliance on the teleprompter to be super fluid as a speaker in front of an audience.
  • He emotes well during speeches, when he is prepared. However, when he’s tired, he is often accused of looking extremely unenthusiastic and demotivational. Tertiary Fe.
  • Picks arguments about factual inaccuracies (Ti).
  • As a young adult, goes on a journey to learn about his father/the past and write a book about it. Developing inferior Si. This balances out or grounds his theories (of race relations, politics, etc.) in reality.
  • Engaging writing style, narrative voice, good at finding and sharing the most interesting things (Ne).
  • Movement style: not particularly fluid; does not sit very straight/still; head and shoulders moving around in interviews/debates.
  • He seems like an extrovert; always outwardly engaging people with his ideas. He lasted eight years in a particularly high stress job with a focus on the latter. Good at juggling a lot of different things at once.
  • Works hard at sports, running, basketball, golf. Uses sports for stress relief. However, not known as the most talented athlete. Bowling disaster on the campaign trail, golf woes… not necessarily a natural when trying a sport for the first time.
  • For comparison, he and Jerry Seinfeld (who we also have as an entp) are pretty much on the same level in that episode of Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee. 

I like the way you type organically, and found interesting how you identify an INTJ, including the speech patterns, and tensness of shoulders and arms. Is there anything such that you pick up on on ESFP people? What are the things about them that tip you off to the type?

infj-zen says:

  • Head and shoulders move around more, less tension/more fluidity in body movement. They seem to carry their weight in their hips when they walk.
  • Flirty, maintain less personal space in interviews. Seem to occupy a lot of space in a room.
  • Usually have a strong focus/awareness/opinions about personal presentation, their own image.
  • Able to speak at length, quickly and articulately, on the spot. Sometimes have a big laugh. Seem to have a tendency to latch on to and frequently use common catchphrases such as “you know what I mean?” 
  • Usually have/seek out a wide circle of friends or acquaintances.
  • Tendency to talk out loud and at length about their personal drama. Reality tv, talk shows love them.
  • Seem to trust their intuition even when it is not so well grounded (inferior Ni).