I’ve been looking at Jerry Seinfeld and David Letterman more closely since there are billions of videos of them but still don’t get the difference in their body language, like P vs J. Maybe I have a general extrovert problem as pretty much all ET types look similar. How do you see the body language difference in say, Seinfeld and Letterman?

Posture-wise, ENTPs tend to stand slightly contrapposto.

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That dude’s milking it.  ENTPs are way more subtle. 

Here’s Seinfeld with his weight on one leg:

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Here’s Letterman with his weight on one leg:

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Seinfeld leaning on some walls:

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Letterman leaning on a post:

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Seinfeld:

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Letterman:

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Seinfeld:

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Letterman:

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Seinfeld:

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Capiche?

another question: how do you separate high Fe users (xxFJs) and low Fe users (xxTPs)? I know I use Ti and Fe, not Te and Fi… but I can’t be sure whether I’m NFJ or NTP…

Sorry I’ve taken so long on this one – I got really tripped up over the functions typing thing.

I don’t really separate high and low Fe users actively (other than occasionally noticing someone has a lot of Fe) – it’s just a happy by-product of the rest of the typing process.

As far as NFJ vs NTP… my INFJ and INTP tags are pretty decently accurate right now.  If you’re watching video, I’ve been spending a lot of time lately looking at hands and arms (a lot of interviews from the waist up). 

J type hands have a particular slow, deliberate, rhythmic beating that they tend to keep up while talking, which is especially apparent in the INFJs and INTJs, although lots of other Js do it too.  P type hand movement tends to follow thoughts in a more organic manner, and Ps also tend to carry a lot less tension through the arms and shoulders in general.

Wow, so I’ve just been going through all of your typing stuff– and it’s really fascinating. In a number of posts, you talk about looking to a person’s body language and general presentation in interviews to determine their types.. Anyway, I was wondering what kind of behaviors/mannerisms you often find INTJs exhibit (in conversation, etc). Also, are they similar to INTPs in that respect? (ik these are sort of loaded questions, so thanks for reading).

I tend to find that INTJ body language is more similar to INFJs than INTPs, and sorry to cheap out on this answer, but probably the best thing to do to see the differences and similarities is to watch a bunch of video in a row of one type and then the other.

how can you tell if someone is a P or a J? it would help me, thank you!

Sure, I tend to look at body language a lot: Js tend to carry more tension through their necks and shoulders, especially, but everywhere else too.  They tend to have better posture – Ps like to slouch.  Facially, Ps and Js smile pretty differently, too – Js smile from the corners of their mouths; Ps tend to go cheeks and eyes.

Clothing and hair is sometimes helpful – are they very neatly presented, or are they going for artfully messy or unconventional?

I test as INFJ and feel like I can identify a lot with this, but at the same time I also identify a lot with INFPs. I’ve taken cognitive function-tests and scored highest on Ni, low on Ne, about 50/50 on Fe and Fi, high on Ti, very low Te and Se and somewhat high on Si. I’m a structured person, so I always type as a Judger. Do you think that unhealthy Ps can become preoccupied with order and stability, and therefore seem like a Js? Also, how do you differentiating INFJs and INFPs when typing? :)

INFPs and ESTJs share the first four functions, so acting in a very structured way is not unfeasible for an INFP.  Either it’s a stress reaction (looks like an unhealthy ESTJ) or a dedicated effort to improve in that area.

Again, INFJs and INFPs have very different body language.  If you watch INTJs and INFJs together, they move very similarly.  INFPs are more like INTPs.  INFJs I can usually pick out by voice patterns, but occasionally they have trained voices and sound a little different, so the physicality works better.

could amy acker be an infp?

No.  P and J physicality is pretty different and she doesn’t move like a P type.  INFJs are a lot more like INTJs on that front.

It’s funny – she’s acted in a lot of moderately high-profile things, but never once does a solo interview.  She’s been to a couple of cons, and did one solo con panel, but that’s about it.  I kind of thought that publicity was part of an actor’s contract, so I don’t know how she got out of press tours, but it is way more of a INFJ thing to avoid media situations to that extent.  Because of Ne, INFPs are at least curious as to how it will go if you give us the idea that it’s something that we need to do.

It’s INFJ or INFP anon again. Thanks for the previous info and sorry to keep at it. Is it possible to be a highly organized, structured INFP? INFP feels right, but I am very much a planner and like order.

Not impossible, but kind of unusual.  

Can you trace back to
specific events that led you to this (e.g. growing up or living with
someone less responsible or messier than you, or with someone you
respected who encouraged you in these behaviours)?

I can’t really
see getting to this point entirely out of self-motivation, however,
both are things I kind of enjoy if framed to myself in a puzzle context
so maybe that is possible?  I like scheduling myself, but I am terrible
at keeping myself to schedule if I am the only one my actions will
affect.  I can be okay at maintaining regular habits, but it takes other
people caring about them (or better, caring about other people) or tremendous feats of willpower to establish
them in the first place.

ETA: Good point, at work INFPs can be very structured and organized, mostly when working for other people.  Trying to make things easier for the people around you is key.

How can you tell if you’re infj or infp?

There’s a lot of specific INFJ and some specific INFP stuff in their respective tags, but, okay.  Let’s talk about anger.

Sure, why not.

Think of a time when you’ve been utterly furious.  Are you:

a) The Hulk.  You try and try to avoid conflict, but things build up and sometimes explode.  The trigger is the initial focus, but really your anger is very unfocused and everything that’s been even remotely irritating ever is all coming out at once. No one emerges unscathed.  Eventually it burns itself out and you limp away, assess damage and feel guilty.  Even if you had the moral high-ground when you started, it is gone, gone, gone.

b) A sniper.  Precise, targeted, patient and deadly.  Your plans are long-term and exact (planning is half the fun – we know because you can be heard cackling madly to yourself).  You feel really satisfied by enacting justice and destroying your enemies.  You’re still mad years later.

INFP is a) Fi anger, INFJ is b) Ni anger.  If you make an INFP angry enough to blow up, you will definitely know.  If you’ve made an INFJ angry enough to plot revenge, you will probably continue to do so without knowing or caring.  Eventually, though… eventually you’ll regret it.

Hi. I would like to know if a perceiver type can be just as orderly and responsible as a judger type. And if you think that this is possible, please explain to me why. Thanks!

Yes.  MBTI isn’t there to tell you what to do.  You are better off not thinking of your type as a box… maybe like an average or a halfway point (starting point?). Or let’s face it, a lot of the profiles are full of stereotypes.

And even if it is something that your MBTI profile says you will be bad at, it is worth doing the things you find difficult.  That’s how you develop your 3rd and 4th (and 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th) functions and become a well-rounded person.

As the reverse of that, there are J types out there who aren’t that organized, or who are only organized at work – they’re setting a low bar!  You can reach it, no problem.