Hey – thank you for answering all my requests bun. I feel kind of presumptuous about putting too many of my own thoughts in and I live in terror of bothering people (INFJ reserve again) but, you know. I’m really glad you’re here ♥ Have you done the queen? I always thought of her as an ISTJ. I haven’t looked at Emily Blunt much as a person but she’s at least played a couple. (PS: Richard Speight Jr is totally an ESFP. I’m running out of space but I think Benedict Cumberbatch might be an INTP.)

Very welcome!  I’m glad you found me and then actually decided to stick around – I would never have made it this far without your insight.  🙂

I’m going to agree with you here on everyone except Emily Blunt, who’s an ESTP.

I ended up having an interesting conversation with my sister (infj-zen) after the last post about Fe, emotions and spirituality.  I won’t get into her spiritual beliefs, but I’ll try and share the other stuff.

She was saying she doesn’t have trouble expressing emotions, to which I replied there is a clear and marked difference between her and our ISFJ mother and in comparison she basically… doesn’t share her emotions.

(I don’t actually share my emotions either very often, though, so.  infj-zen and I engage through N: ideas and concepts.)

In any case, Ni, the main function of the INFJ, is a weird function to have as a your primary operating system and causes you to do a lot of analysis.  infj-zen told me that most people think she is calm whether or not she actually is, possibly because every emotion she feels is being immediately filtered through Ni and thoroughly analyzed.  In effect, distancing her.

If you look at an ISFJ, their Fe is being filtered through Si – everything they feel is being compared to past experiences.  In essence, they’re pretty much reliving memories, so they’re probably getting present and the past emotions in stereo.

For both of you Fe is your primary mode of operating with people, so you’re both pretty comfortable with it, but express it in different ways.  I think you’re both good at setting people at ease (when you want to be!), but as far as talking feelings, the ISFJs generally have an easier time trusting and feeling comfortable around people.

mbti-sorted: …ISFJs feel comfortable with their Fe and expressing themselves as emotional and spiritual people (using it as a valid point of view in arguments) and the INFJs tend to keep it to themselves until they know how others will take it…

roseblight said: … Do INFJs get more comfortable with their Fe as they grow older and do a lot of work on themselves?

I like to think that in general people get better at using all their functions as they get older.  INFJs have a couple of things working against them as far as communication goes:

One is simply introversion and being wary of or less interested in expressing things in general.  Being in the minority as an Intuit and having the Sensor majority not necessarily understand you doesn’t help – if you feel that people are judging you or uninterested, you eventually give up trying to connect in that way.  It’s probably the combination of Ni and Fe that does it, though.  Ni is a mysterious thing to have as a first function – it’s difficult to explain how you know what you know, and without a dominant S or a T function to fall back on, it’s even worse.  ISFJs get to say “I know and have feelings about people!” because “Si things I observed!” INFJs are stuck with “I know all these weird things about people!” because “it just came to me!" 

"It just came to me!” is a really hard way to defend any argument, let alone an F based one about the weird and uncomfortable things you know about the people around you.  Whereas ISFJs can instinctively trust the things they know (in turn making it easier to convince others with their feelings based arguments), INFJs have to work at knowing why they know the things they know* and have to learn when to reveal this information and when to keep it to themselves.  Basically lots of research, analysis and trial and error.  In the mean time, you spend a lot of time trying to think of something to say that isn’t the awkward thing about which you’re thinking.

I actually am or have been acquainted with a surprising number of INFJs and usually the older ones do seem happy – settled in their responsibilities and relationships.  The younger ones are usually going through some things. I haven’t been around for most of the transitions from younger to older.  I don’t think I’ve had many if any conversations with INFJs (with the exception of my sister) that were emotional or spiritual in nature, but that could be for any number of reasons (Introversion! Atheism! Conforming to S-type social conventions!).

All that said, there have been a couple of INFJs on youtube talking about precisely these things, and being very comfortable about it, so.  Maybe it is just about being able to trust the people around you – having a community around you that is interested in your feelings and encourages you to express them.

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*I have experienced exactly four flashes of Ni in my life, ever – very stupid mundane things – but I can remember them because I don’t think I’ve ever been so certain of anything without understanding why.  It felt an awful lot like waking up from a dream and only remembering the very last bit – all the details and internal logic leading up to that final impression having slipped away.  I can’t even imagine how confusing and frustrating that must be as a primary mode of experiencing life.

Hey :) This is an crazy obscure request so I will completely understand if it’s not doable: Anne-Lousie Lambert is an Australian actress who later became a psychotherapist, she was in a historical-mystery-art film called Picnic At Hanging Rock in 1975 – I was watching the DVD extras and I kind of think she might be an INFJ? She has that very sort of gentle and thoughtful presence. Or she might be an INFP?

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Usually when I see an ISFJ on youtube who is convinced they’re an INFJ, this is what they look/act like.

The difference?  I find that ISFJs feel comfortable with their Fe and expressing themselves as emotional and spiritual people (using it as a valid point of view in arguments) and the INFJs tend to keep it to themselves until they know how others will take it.  The body language is a bit different, as well.

Also the typical youtube comments in an ISFJ video are: looks amazing for her age!  Still in love with her!  Amazing actress!  Love her!  Beautiful!  Gracious!  Sweet!

Yep.  People overwhelmingly love ISFJs.

I have another request? (NB: I have an endless number of requests. Please do tell me if I should stop sending you requests.) Ages ago on LJ you mentioned INTJ comedians and I thought about for a little while but the only one I could think of was David Mitchell? So David Mitchell in particular but INTJ comedians in general?

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I agree that David’s an INTJ.  I don’t remember who I was thinking of when I said that… um, but I am on the lookout now!

Please keep on sending requests – I am slowing down at getting to answering them, but it will happen someday, I promise.