I think Ezra Miller is an ENFP mainly because of the topics he frequently talks about, what he thinks about them and the way in which he talks about them. I think you’re definitely right about ExFP, but I do think he’s intuitive (and more specifically, uses Ne)… I know this is incredibly vague but it’s hard to go into specific detail through an ask box haha

jademeetsworld said to mbti-sorted:

the main reason I think Ezra Miller is an ENFP is because he says a lot of “N things”, particularly Ne things, in interviews. for example, an interviewer asked him something along the lines of “so you’re known as being bizarre.” and then went on to confirm that he was born in New Jersey. and Ezra replied “New Jersey. super bizarre place. if you look at it aerially it’s like all squares and circles and there’s something weird about that.”

and then with Regina, i’ll be honest i’ve only seen one interview but she was pretty abstract and conceptualizing in it. i mostly get the N from her music which is pretty Ne to me because she writes a lot of songs as little fictional stories and has weird metaphors and talks a lot about topics from different perspectives. all of that strikes me as Ne somewhere on the functional stack instead of Ni and she is probably a P so I’d guess XNFP

jademeetsworld said to mbti-sorted:

Okay so Ezra Miller, Logan Lerman and Halsey. Also, I’m wondering why you don’t get an N vibe from Joseph Gordon-Levitt (he seems far more idea-based than sensory) and why you think John Lennon was a Ti user because he seemed a bit too dreamy and idealistic to be dom-Ti in my opinion.

Sorry to send you more than one ask but with Joseph Gordon-Levitt it might be helpful to check out his videos he makes for HitRECord because a lot of the time they seem pretty Ne (at least to me).

First of all, my apologies!!! These asks are so old I could probably throw them a birthday party.

Ezra, Regina, JGL (SFPs):

What I see when I look at them is tremendously stylish, talented, congenial, enthusiastic people who also have been raised with an appreciation for education and intelligence. They seem vaguely EN because they are shadow-functioning.

Halsey’s already been covered in another ask or three, but same idea there.

John Lennon:

I think he has a reputation for dreamy idealism, but the reality is a guy who was super cutting with his words (NFs are better at sustained passive aggression).

May I jump in on this. One thing I notice between SJ and NP and how they express Si are SJ’s are more noticeably tied to their routines, like how they are daily. They’re steady, reliable creatures of habit. NP can be these things also but theyre less reliable than SJ because their Ne is stronger in them. NP are likely to see leaps and changes as appealing and fun than an SJ will ordinarily. Si in NP types can be nostalgic but less related to their routines or things they deal with daily.

Ok, so here is the thing. You are comparing profile NP to profile SJ. I have found that in looking at specific people of one type, there is a huge range of people that belong to that type, some of whom use their third and fourth functions way more than first and third. If you take an INFP using their Si and Te the most (maybe they’re responsible for a dependent and have become very organized and routine out of necessity) and compare them to an ISFJ who’s backpacking across the world and has no responsibilities, the lines between them are extremely blurred.

What would be a better comparison is to see how both ISFJ and INFP handle having a dependent, because you are more likely to see type-related differences more clearly then.

In Dodie’s case, I don’t really think she is shadow-functioning. Comparatively to me, she extraverts way more Fi, a little more Ne and probably a lot more Si, going by the other anon’s argument (I didn’t watch long enough to catch any of it, unfortunately). Generally, she is just more extraverted than me.

As ENTP’s get older what does developing Fe look like? I found what INFJ-zen said about interest in family history being a sign of developing Si, really interesting, so I was curious about Fe.

Hm.. I kind of wonder if Fe has as much to do with family history seeking as the Si. True, Si looks to the past and knowing your ancestry anchors and might provide an interesting explanation for some family/social behaviours that echo down to you, but Fe is about human connection.

In any case, Fe, being your third function, probably starts kicking in around your twenties, so if you find yourself reaching out more at that point in your life, maybe your Fe is prompting this.

RE Prince William appearing more enFj than enTj, I also had trouble w/ the differences between Fe and Te extraverts because they both “handle” people. Will is also monarchy and there’s a lot of Fe in that type of milieu, he wouldve naturally attuned himself to that way and it was also likely drilled into him. I’m isfp and w/ esfj dad and entp mum so for a long time I was confused about Fi-Fe and Ti-Te bc I test high for the functions my parents use while still testing high for my own preferences

Many of my friends that grew up WASPy also look Fe strong even if it’s
not in their top functions. Nurture plays a big role and it can take
much reflection and consideration to determine one’s true type if their
environment and parental influence was strong. This is especially true
for those who actually have Fe preference and an infj friend of mine
struggles between infj and intj even though he speaks like every infj on
this site.

Hm… I would disagree about the Royal family being an Fe heavy place. Up until Camilla, Kate and Megan Markle if she sticks it out (a possible hat-trick of ESFJs?), I think all their F-type members were Fi (Edward, Fergie, one of the princess-cousins, maybe some of the great-grandkids). It’s a very T-type family. There’s a lot of inferior Fe, though, which I’m not sure is well developed, but they have a lot of etiquette/media training that kind of covers the same bases.

Shadow-functioning and nurture do seem to be very closely tied, though, and as a note, I don’t think there’s a another type that shadow-functions so convincingly in so many directions as ISFPs. I am not surprised you were confused about your preferences, because I am constantly mistaking ISFPs for other types.

I recently found my type! I’m an ENTP, so yay half the work’s done, but I’m finding it really frustrating that all the descriptions just basically say “hyper, brainiacs”. I’ surprised how one-dimensional the profiles are especially compared to other types. You seem really good at picking up nuances among the types, what’s your take on ENTP’s?

Congrats, firstly!

As far as the ENTP type, hyper brainiac is one aspect that crops up again and again, and seems to suggest a lot of Ne and a lot of Ti. Basically, your stereotypical profile-perfect ENTP. It doesn’t really do much to describe the ENTPs with a lot of Si or Fe (practicality and empathy, in the simplest terms).

If you think of it maybe like a soundboard, the hyper brainiac has their Ne and Ti slid to the highest level (with probably low levels for Si and Fe). Most ENTPs have mid range levels, with Ne and Ti a little higher than Si and Fe. Shadow-functioning ENTPs have a lot of Fe and/or Si.

What makes you think Oscar Isaac is an ESTP? He seems very Ne in the way that he talks

He seems like a reasonably intelligent person with a BFA from Julliard who’s using his academic knowledge to break down roles the way he was taught, and also to flirt (succesfully) with his super-nerdy fan-base.

See also: Tom Hiddleston, for S-types who’ve figured out how to speak to N-types in N-type language. And probably all those ISTPs who keep getting typed as INFPs. The Ti-Ni analytical combo tends to make thoughtful STPs look N-ish.

another question: how do you separate high Fe users (xxFJs) and low Fe users (xxTPs)? I know I use Ti and Fe, not Te and Fi… but I can’t be sure whether I’m NFJ or NTP…

Sorry I’ve taken so long on this one – I got really tripped up over the functions typing thing.

I don’t really separate high and low Fe users actively (other than occasionally noticing someone has a lot of Fe) – it’s just a happy by-product of the rest of the typing process.

As far as NFJ vs NTP… my INFJ and INTP tags are pretty decently accurate right now. If you’re watching video, I’ve been spending a lot of time lately looking at hands and arms (a lot of interviews from the waist up).

J type hands have a particular slow, deliberate, rhythmic beating that they tend to keep up while talking, which is especially apparent in the INFJs and INTJs, although lots of other Js do it too. P type hand movement tends to follow thoughts in a more organic manner, and Ps also tend to carry a lot less tension through the arms and shoulders in general.

every time I see a white lighter, I think of when a friend told me they are bad luck (because of their association with many dead rock stars) is this Ne-Si or Se-Ni?

I am not the best to be answering functions questions…

For me, I might remember this as an Ne thing – weird connected information, as an Fi thing – information remembered because of a personal connection to a friend, maybe an Si thing – sort of a white lighter = bad luck rule, maybe a Te thing – ??? I don’t know, run out of thoughts. You could probably do the same for the other four functions, though, too.

Are you sure you’re definitely not a sensor? Because you type primary grouch the use of physical/”obvious” clues that can be seen with the naked eye, whereas intuitives come to conclusions through reading between the lines, through what can’t be seen. It’s the main difference between Ns and Ss, when you’re not thinking of functions.

Well, thank you for demonstrating so beautifully why I chose against typing people by their words. You can write about any experience, whether it belongs under the purview of your first and second functions or not. I’m not sure if my posts would bear this out, but I remember writing about my Ni and Fe (5th and 6th) experiences long before writing about my Fi, which is my first. Fi is a constant hum to me… I notice the Ni and Fe things more clearly for being unusual (and therefore things I would find more interesting to share).

As far as Si being my first/second function (and trust me, I’m not a Se, I have exceptionally pathetic spatial awareness – listening to people talk about what their Se actually does blows my mind), I’m going to choose to take that to mean that I sound like I have decently developed inferior functions. I have much the same position on this as I do when I was receiving objections over my typing of Sam Smith as an INTP, which is that people like using their 3rd/4th functions! Shocking, I know. It is fun and challenging (and often frustrating, which means you spend a lot of time working on them once you start) and results in you becoming a well-rounded person who can relate better to more people.

I would contest your definition of intuitives, though – my understanding is that while Ni might draw conclusions, Ne doesn’t – it’s expansive; it’s about creating possibilities. And while typing in part by physical comparison was only one possibility I considered, it is the one that seemed to give me the most promisingly consistent results.

I’m frequently mistyping between the peeps in ENFJ and ESTP tags. When I think the body language fits ENFJ you have them in ESTP and same deal when I think I see strong Fe. I end up agreeing with your typing tho, but could you suggest some tips for how to suss out between them?

I see where you’re coming from, what with ESTP and ENFJ being extraverts with the same functions – when they have well developed 3rd and 4th functions, they can look a lot alike.

I just did S vs. N, so kind of the same for F vs. T – type by stereotypes, and then build patterns based on other things for the people you can’t tell.

I don’t know if it’ll be helpful to you, but I tend to think of ‘warm’ vs. ‘sharp’ for F vs. T.

Maybe for P vs. J, try imitating their movement (and facial expressions), and see how it feels on your body?